[Nick]

I told Jack in our IMs right before my tribal council to trust Aaron and go with him if he could, since I trusted both of them at that point.

Before that, Aaron got all Jack information from me.

Well then I was mistaken. But the underlying point though is that Jack would follow others and would only consult one-two people at a time which is why I have such a hard time voting him. And ultimately, at the end of the day from Dean's vote-out on he would exclusively work with Aaron.

[John]

I'm just saying washed-up because I felt like there was a lot of negative comments and bitterness when I re-read the Ponderosa chat. Not calling out any one specific person I just felt like the final 3 wasn't getting the recognition they deserved from yall and there has been a lot of talk of them being "under the radar" when I think at least Aaron/Kara both had a lot of flashy moments during the game.

sad and washed up is i think how you put it. I've done nothing but laugh since i got to the ponderosa, sounds like you were disappointed in your social game and used your jury statement to make sure everyone knew it.

All I read in the chats were bitterness and how pissed y'all were with how the game was shaping up so . I'm disappointed in my social game most definitely because like I said, I never felt extremely connected with anyone but I'm not lying when I say that there were a lot of conversations about how bad the final 3 games were when they ended up outlasting each of you in the end.

I’d like to see any post I’ve made about that. Think the worst was when I laughed about how bad my alliance turned out if we all left 8th, 7th, 6th, and 5th in a row,

Everyone who made the final 9 would’ve been a great winner. I also don’t agree that any of them were boring at all.

[Dean]

I'm just saying washed-up because I felt like there was a lot of negative comments and bitterness when I re-read the Ponderosa chat. Not calling out any one specific person I just felt like the final 3 wasn't getting the recognition they deserved from yall and there has been a lot of talk of them being "under the radar" when I think at least Aaron/Kara both had a lot of flashy moments during the game.

sad and washed up is i think how you put it. I've done nothing but laugh since i got to the ponderosa, sounds like you were disappointed in your social game and used your jury statement to make sure everyone knew it.

All I read in the chats were bitterness and how pissed y'all were with how the game was shaping up so . I'm disappointed in my social game most definitely because like I said, I never felt extremely connected with anyone but I'm not lying when I say that there were a lot of conversations about how bad the final 3 games were when they ended up outlasting each of you in the end.

I can't speak for anyone else but I can speak for me. I'm gonna be real with you Nick.

To me, this is an experience. This is for fun. If I ever say things like "oh shit this is the worst F3 ever" then it's all in good fun. Actually I think I've praised this motley crew of a F3 many times before for being different from each other for unique playstyles, as well as from being different factions, as it were. And maybe you weren't referencing me when you talked about what the jury has said, but again, I can only speak for me.

I know Lauren's said a few times she doesn't want to vote for anyone here, but I get more of a humourous vibe from her when she says that. I just think you have to take it on the chin and accept a few jokes here and there. Do some people think this is a shit F3? Perhaps they do and they are pretty salty, but I for one think most people here, at the end of the day, enjoy these three people and wouldn't mind seeing at least one of them crowned as the Winner.

I'm not coming at you or anything, I just feel like I had to say my peace, and now I have.

[Nick]

sad and washed up is i think how you put it. I've done nothing but laugh since i got to the ponderosa, sounds like you were disappointed in your social game and used your jury statement to make sure everyone knew it.

All I read in the chats were bitterness and how pissed y'all were with how the game was shaping up so . I'm disappointed in my social game most definitely because like I said, I never felt extremely connected with anyone but I'm not lying when I say that there were a lot of conversations about how bad the final 3 games were when they ended up outlasting each of you in the end.

I’d like to see any post I’ve made about that. Think the worst was when I laughed about how bad my alliance turned out if we all left 8th, 7th, 6th, and 5th in a row,

Everyone who made the final 9 would’ve been a great winner. I also don’t agree that any of them were boring at all.

All I'm trying to say is that everyone here buddied up and then ripped apart anyone left in the game which is why I considered a lot that was said here "bitterness". Obviously we're all friendly here and once you're out you can joke about what happened but I've been seeing more negative statements that were directly towards the people who made it to the end then positive ones. But I'm not going to attack one person directly about what they've said because I'm saying in general terms, some people are more upset then others.

[John]

I told Jack in our IMs right before my tribal council to trust Aaron and go with him if he could, since I trusted both of them at that point.

Before that, Aaron got all Jack information from me.

Well then I was mistaken. But the underlying point though is that Jack would follow others and would only consult one-two people at a time which is why I have such a hard time voting him. And ultimately, at the end of the day from Dean's vote-out on he would exclusively work with Aaron.

Jack, the guy that got screamed at by half the game for flipping at the final 13 to put a majority against Missy, would only follow orders? Are we talking about the same person? Again this is Jack, the guy who the very next round went against his new group of 8 people to tell me that Alison was getting votes and by proxy warning me to play the idol? This is the guy that you’re going to argue followed orders by 1 person the entire game?

[Alison]

I'm just saying washed-up because I felt like there was a lot of negative comments and bitterness when I re-read the Ponderosa chat. Not calling out any one specific person I just felt like the final 3 wasn't getting the recognition they deserved from yall and there has been a lot of talk of them being "under the radar" when I think at least Aaron/Kara both had a lot of flashy moments during the game.

sad and washed up is i think how you put it. I've done nothing but laugh since i got to the ponderosa, sounds like you were disappointed in your social game and used your jury statement to make sure everyone knew it.

All I read in the chats were bitterness and how pissed y'all were with how the game was shaping up so . I'm disappointed in my social game most definitely because like I said, I never felt extremely connected with anyone but I'm not lying when I say that there were a lot of conversations about how bad the final 3 games were when they ended up outlasting each of you in the end.

the only person i ever said played a bad game was jack and i took that back when he won that last challenge. I'm not a fan of people speaking for me. I literally said that aaron needs to go if the others wanted a chance to win and i had an F3 with kara from the start so i know i never said anything of the sort... I was disappointed in the final 3 because thats not how I thought it would play out. i think ONE PERSON said they were boring and then you went and displayed it as a comment the whole jury made to what? make yourself look better by saying you didnt agree with "us"? Hey nick i dont know if you know it or not but we arent playing the game anymore they are so we dont have to lie and suck up.

[Nick]

sad and washed up is i think how you put it. I've done nothing but laugh since i got to the ponderosa, sounds like you were disappointed in your social game and used your jury statement to make sure everyone knew it.

All I read in the chats were bitterness and how pissed y'all were with how the game was shaping up so . I'm disappointed in my social game most definitely because like I said, I never felt extremely connected with anyone but I'm not lying when I say that there were a lot of conversations about how bad the final 3 games were when they ended up outlasting each of you in the end.

I can't speak for anyone else but I can speak for me. I'm gonna be real with you Nick.

To me, this is an experience. This is for fun. If I ever say things like "oh shit this is the worst F3 ever" then it's all in good fun. Actually I think I've praised this motley crew of a F3 many times before for being different from each other for unique playstyles, as well as from being different factions, as it were. And maybe you weren't referencing me when you talked about what the jury has said, but again, I can only speak for me.

I know Lauren's said a few times she doesn't want to vote for anyone here, but I get more of a humourous vibe from her when she says that. I just think you have to take it on the chin and accept a few jokes here and there. Do some people think this is a shit F3? Perhaps they do and they are pretty salty, but I for one think most people here, at the end of the day, enjoy these three people and wouldn't mind seeing at least one of them crowned as the Winner.

I'm not coming at you or anything, I just feel like I had to say my peace, and now I have.

Of course, and I don't mean anything personal and I don't mean to be a priss about my jury statement. I'm happy to meet everyone once the game is over and see what everyone is like in the real life but I just don't want to have any statements made here take away from the fact that each of the final 3 played a comparatively better game then the people on the jury.

[John]

All I read in the chats were bitterness and how pissed y'all were with how the game was shaping up so . I'm disappointed in my social game most definitely because like I said, I never felt extremely connected with anyone but I'm not lying when I say that there were a lot of conversations about how bad the final 3 games were when they ended up outlasting each of you in the end.

I’d like to see any post I’ve made about that. Think the worst was when I laughed about how bad my alliance turned out if we all left 8th, 7th, 6th, and 5th in a row,

Everyone who made the final 9 would’ve been a great winner. I also don’t agree that any of them were boring at all.

All I'm trying to say is that everyone here buddied up and then ripped apart anyone left in the game which is why I considered a lot that was said here "bitterness". Obviously we're all friendly here and once you're out you can joke about what happened but I've been seeing more negative statements that were directly towards the people who made it to the end then positive ones. But I'm not going to attack one person directly about what they've said because I'm saying in general terms, some people are more upset then others.

I think I’ve been very clear at who I think played the worst games out here, and it’s definitely not any of the people that made the finals.

You’re free to interpret any comments however you want. Will agree to disagree there.

[Nick]

I told Jack in our IMs right before my tribal council to trust Aaron and go with him if he could, since I trusted both of them at that point.

Before that, Aaron got all Jack information from me.

Well then I was mistaken. But the underlying point though is that Jack would follow others and would only consult one-two people at a time which is why I have such a hard time voting him. And ultimately, at the end of the day from Dean's vote-out on he would exclusively work with Aaron.

Jack, the guy that got screamed at by half the game for flipping at the final 13 to put a majority against Missy, would only follow orders? Are we talking about the same person? Again this is Jack, the guy who the very next round went against his new group of 8 people to tell me that Alison was getting votes and by proxy warning me to play the idol? This is the guy that you’re going to argue followed orders by 1 person the entire game?

Yes. When it came to that vote I believed he had struck a deal with Carl/Dean/Aaron and I felt like he was content working with them, which was also the reason why I flipped. After he flipped I didn't see him make a move on his own, which is why I have trouble voting him and that is why I asked him to prove my own thoughts wrong. I'm definitely open to change my mind and I'm excited to see what he happens to say because I haven't totally dismissed him. But you can't tell me after the vote he made anymore moves and you can't tell me after the "Categories" challenge where we labelled him as a "Goat" that he tried to make any moves to better his own game. From my perspective, he only followed a few people and that was it. But like I said, I'm willing to hear him out and for him to prove me wrong, if he can.

[John]

I’m also not saying Jack is getting my vote by any means. I just have a hard time saying someone did nothing if they managed to bring out such emotions in others.

More though, I find it quite ironic that you’re attacking the jury for not giving the finalists credit for their gameplay, yet you’re doing the exact same thing to Jack because the two of you didn’t have a social connection. I wonder if you two switched places, would he have said the same about you?

[Nick]

sad and washed up is i think how you put it. I've done nothing but laugh since i got to the ponderosa, sounds like you were disappointed in your social game and used your jury statement to make sure everyone knew it.

All I read in the chats were bitterness and how pissed y'all were with how the game was shaping up so . I'm disappointed in my social game most definitely because like I said, I never felt extremely connected with anyone but I'm not lying when I say that there were a lot of conversations about how bad the final 3 games were when they ended up outlasting each of you in the end.

the only person i ever said played a bad game was jack and i took that back when he won that last challenge. I'm not a fan of people speaking for me. I literally said that aaron needs to go if the others wanted a chance to win and i had an F3 with kara from the start so i know i never said anything of the sort... I was disappointed in the final 3 because thats not how I thought it would play out. i think ONE PERSON said they were boring and then you went and displayed it as a comment the whole jury made to what? make yourself look better by saying you didnt agree with "us"? Hey nick i dont know if you know it or not but we arent playing the game anymore they are so we dont have to lie and suck up.

Okay first off, I said everything as a generalization. I'm not speaking for anyone, I just felt like the general atmosphere in this chat was that people weren't happy with the final 3 and I don't mean to sound like I think you specifically said anything horrendous about the final 3. I'm not lying, why the fuck would I have had said anything and I'm not sucking up to anyone, I'm happy to address what I think and after this game I really won't give a fuck about who said what because it is just game, and I know that. And yes, I don't agree with a lot of what has been said here tonight and it is my right as a jury to take what has been said here and form my own opinions just like you're disagreeing with me. What I said was from my own perspective of the game and so you are free to feel what you want, but I'm not doing this to make myself look better, I'm just doing it because I want to vote for the RIGHT person and I don't want to vote until I have all my concerns addressed.

[Nick]

I’m also not saying Jack is getting my vote by any means. I just have a hard time saying someone did nothing if they managed to bring out such emotions in others.

More though, I find it quite ironic that you’re attacking the jury for not giving the finalists credit for their gameplay, yet you’re doing the exact same thing to Jack because the two of you didn’t have a social connection. I wonder if you two switched places, would he have said the same about you?

I'm legit just playing devil's advocate. I think Jack truly belongs there because he managed to find the right people to work with and make it to the end, I just want him to clarify his game. He is welcome to disagree with me which was the point of my question to him. But don't think for a second I don't want him there, he got their fair and square and I do think he ultimately played better then I could because I was sporadic and hard to get to know and work with. And I don't know what he would say about me if the roles were revered, but he seemed to respect me when I left and I felt the same way when I was eliminated as well.

[Lauren]

Yikes I just read Nick's post. I dont think any of us would call these people boring or undeserving. Maybe Lauren but even then I think she understands that they played good games. I dont know where Nick is getting the washed up part, we are all kind of together in trying to find the best of the three. And I agree with Dean, if I was in F3, I would expect the jury to be hard since its literally the most important vote.

Here’s the thing, I wasn’t planning on voting any of them because I expected Tommy to be there.

[John]

I may need to post my question tomorrow.

[Alison]

I had to tonight because I plan on drinking from the time I’m awake tomorrow until I drop

[John]

I had to tonight because I plan on drinking from the time I’m awake tomorrow until I drop

I’ll either post late tonight or in the morning/afternoon. Won’t be around in the evening either.

[Dean]

I already felt wasted yesterday but if people be drinking tomorrow then so shall I.

Drunk jury sticks together

I'll be posting my questions soon...ish... like within the hour or three

[Alison]

So what are you all’s plans tomorrow? Are ya dressing up?

[Tommy]

Sweat Pants guy! I normally dress up but the Gov cancelled trick or treating so we are being lame.

[Alison]

Sweat Pants guy! I normally dress up but the Gov cancelled trick or treating so we are being lame.

I mean I’ve seen some good looking sweatpants in my day lol we still get to trick or treat so we’re having a very small like 8 people get together tomorrow night! I’m going as an eighties girl hot pink and black side pony with all the gel bracelets and leg warmers and I’m super excited about it because I literally haven’t done anything for so long!!