[Alison]

I’m gonna try to behave tonight.

[John]

I felt similar in Aaron's responses somewhat. In Nick's response he paints me as his QB or right hand man with him calling the shots. Fair enough, I felt differently, but he was just as involved as I was. But in his reason to blindside me, "he couldnt" beat me. I don't need the ego stroke Aaron, stick to one narrative man.

For Kara, Carl, yes we had a plan to get the idol out along with John and then Ang next without her idol. Kara played a part in planning an possible execution of that plan. It would have been insanely hard to pull off, but it was the only way to get the three strongest players left in the game out. Ang-John-Idol. I personally wanted to go Ang-Nick-Idol as a combo cause I was working better with John, but that was the play and Kara was involved.

Kara's answer to my question will be eye opening to a lot of us, especially myself.

I will say Angelina was never going to play her idol if you were all voting for me since she was targeting Nick. So that's a pretty terrible plan to get rid of an idol. Interested to hear how that would've even been possible to make both things happen.

No the plan to get rid of the idol was to tell Ang Jack, cause that would seem like a lie and she would think the votes were going to her. At that point anyone that told you everyone wanted Jack out, felt like a misdirection, so that was the plan and then gang vote Nick or you.

Fair enough although that’s not what Aaron just answered. He said Angelina was the vote at final 8 as long as she didn’t play the idol despite you saying it was between me and Nick. And as this was happening, Nick was trying to create a split vote between Angelina and Aaron (also it’s fair to note that Nick trusted me until Aaron told him the plan to go for Nick, which would have never happened had Angelina not been kicked out since we wouldn’t have potentially needed his vote).

Not saying you’re wrong, but it is definitely a knock against Aaron’s answer if his thinking was that the game didn’t change at all by the expulsion. If he thinks it would’ve been an easy vote for Angelina, well, no one else seemed to be on the same page as him. This is why I’m very curious as to how Kara and Jack answer that question.

[Tommy]

Kara's answer to my question will be eye opening to a lot of us, especially myself.

I will say Angelina was never going to play her idol if you were all voting for me since she was targeting Nick. So that's a pretty terrible plan to get rid of an idol. Interested to hear how that would've even been possible to make both things happen.

No the plan to get rid of the idol was to tell Ang Jack, cause that would seem like a lie and she would think the votes were going to her. At that point anyone that told you everyone wanted Jack out, felt like a misdirection, so that was the plan and then gang vote Nick or you.

Fair enough although that’s not what Aaron just answered. He said Angelina was the vote at final 8 as long as she didn’t play the idol despite you saying it was between me and Nick. And as this was happening, Nick was trying to create a split vote between Angelina and Aaron (also it’s fair to note that Nick trusted me until Aaron told him the plan to go for Nick, which would have never happened had Angelina not been kicked out since we wouldn’t have potentially needed his vote).

Not saying you’re wrong, but it is definitely a knock against Aaron’s answer if his thinking was that the game didn’t change at all by the expulsion. If he thinks it would’ve been an easy vote for Angelina, well, no one else seemed to be on the same page as him. This is why I’m very curious as to how Kara and Jack answer that question.

How could we have gotten Ang out there with the idol? We were never ever going to vote her. @Nick , correct me if I am wrong her, but the play was whisper Jack to Ang and John, them call us liars, Ang play her idol and then vote for John. There was ZERO chance in my eyes Ang went home that vote, why you were the target for everyone but me and Alison.

Nick might have seen that vote differently, but that was the view from Tommyville. I'll be very interested to see what Jack and Kara say as well.

[Tommy]

Sorry, I forgot whisper's were a term in this game. More plant seeds of "lets vote Jack tonight" We were not going to wait till tribal, although a Jack whisper would have probably made you think we were full of shit too.

[John]

How could we have gotten Ang out there with the idol?

No idea. This is a good follow up question to Aaron for tomorrow night because it makes absolutely no sense to me.

[John]

Again, to be clear, I never said Angelina was leaving at the final 8.

[Lauren]

I don't know why John continuously tries to tell myself and others how we should feel/view the jury. That opening speech was I believe, and some others, that the three that are left were ultimately UTR players. Stop trying to tell us how we should feel about them. Your opinion nor anyone else will change my vote or how I perceive any of the three left.

[Dean]

Alison is a new Halloween tradition tbh

[Dean]

Alison is a new Halloween tradition tbh

[Tommy]

Again, to be clear, I never said Angelina was leaving at the final 8.

My whole plan for Stranded hinged on someone being kicked out Final 9 and I almost had it! Final 8 totally fucked me.

Ranks of who Ang boot hurt the most:
1. Host Team and pretty much all of us
2. John
3. Still John cause he lost two in Ang and the idol and I think would have been tougher to get out that vote for sure
4. Alison

Helped the most
1A. 1B. Aaron and Jack

[John]

I don't know why John continuously tries to tell myself and others how we should feel/view the jury. That opening speech was I believe, and some others, that the three that are left were ultimately UTR players. Stop trying to tell us how we should feel about them. Your opinion nor anyone else will change my vote or how I perceive any of the three left.

Do you know how to read?

I clearly said everyone is allowed to individually think for themselves. How am I forcing my opinion on anyone else?

[Dean]

Something is wrong with my wifi and mobile, can hosts remove the double post I did? Would if I could.

Also, I think it is obvious, but let's all look at their answers for our questions and see what goes with what, along with what we already know, and we can think of the right questions for them tomorrow and then after, vote from there. There should be no voting blocks in jury, just one individual vote. And that's coming from me of all people.

[John]

Again, to be clear, I never said Angelina was leaving at the final 8.

My whole plan for Stranded hinged on someone being kicked out Final 9 and I almost had it! Final 8 totally fucked me.

Ranks of who Ang boot hurt the most:
1. Host Team and pretty much all of us
2. John
3. Still John cause he lost two in Ang and the idol and I think would have been tougher to get out that vote for sure
4. Alison

Helped the most
1A. 1B. Aaron and Jack

Alison and Kara were both closer to Angelina than I was.

[Lauren]

I don't know why John continuously tries to tell myself and others how we should feel/view the jury. That opening speech was I believe, and some others, that the three that are left were ultimately UTR players. Stop trying to tell us how we should feel about them. Your opinion nor anyone else will change my vote or how I perceive any of the three left.

Do you know how to read?

I clearly said everyone is allowed to individually think for themselves. How am I forcing my opinion on anyone else?

Just because you add that disclaimer doesn't mean you aren't trying to influence how we think. My goodness, I am so pissed at myself - Should have and COULD have flipped those votes on you the night I went like I've lost my mind.

[John]

Just because you add that disclaimer doesn't mean you aren't trying to influence how we think.

I genuinely have no idea what you are referring to. How am I trying to force my opinion on anyone else?

This is a “Game Commentary” thread, and I am commenting on the game. Everyone is free to think for themselves, including both you and myself.

Would love to hear if anyone else thinks I am forcing them what to think.

[Lauren]

Just because you add that disclaimer doesn't mean you aren't trying to influence how we think.

I genuinely have no idea what you are referring to. How am I trying to force my opinion on anyone else?

This is a “Game Commentary” thread, and I am commenting on the game. Everyone is free to think for themselves, including both you and myself.

Would love to hear if anyone else thinks I am forcing them what to think.

I am referring to your opening speech in that FTC thread.

[Tommy]

Again, to be clear, I never said Angelina was leaving at the final 8.

My whole plan for Stranded hinged on someone being kicked out Final 9 and I almost had it! Final 8 totally fucked me.

Ranks of who Ang boot hurt the most:
1. Host Team and pretty much all of us
2. John
3. Still John cause he lost two in Ang and the idol and I think would have been tougher to get out that vote for sure
4. Alison

Helped the most
1A. 1B. Aaron and Jack

Alison and Kara were both closer to Angelina than I was.

Yes, but it hurt you more as for how the game went. IMO

[Tommy]

I’m gonna try to behave tonight.

I bet you send a DTF text before 8pm EST.

Also, extra hour to party tonight for all you kids out there (Nick). I always wondered if you worked stock hours at say Target, do they let you leave at 2am, do you have to work it twice and get paid 9 hours?

[Alison]

You all need a few drinks. Have some fun!! @Dean I am an amazing tradition to start @Tommy hit your pen let’s have fun. @Lauren ITS HALLOWEEN BITCH LETS HVE FUN @John LETS PARTY

[Alison]

I’m gonna try to behave tonight.

I bet you send a DTF text before 8pm EST.

Also, extra hour to party tonight for all you kids out there (Nick). I always wondered if you worked stock hours at say Target, do they let you leave at 2am, do you have to work it twice and get paid 9 hours?

I save my DTF texts for after 10 anytime before that seems desperate doll.