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Ongoing Game Commentary - Page 17 - Stranded in Tanzania
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Dean wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:21:24 pm
Lauren wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:17:49 pm
Nick wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:14:39 pm

I don't remember, I think it was started in the 1011 chat with myself, Carl, Aaron, and Dean but I don't remember specifically who brought her up. I just remember everyone thought she was the biggest threat on their side so they wanted her gone.
You guys had a group chat? I was never included in any group chats or anything. I said I didn’t regret anything in this game but I kinda do now. :thumbsdown:
Yup, the "1011" chat. It was me, Aaron, Carl, and Nick. It was called Win or Booze. Nick forgot the name of our alliance like a week into the game :crine:

Nick wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:18:16 pm
Dean wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:16:59 pm

For that particular round, it was me and Carl that were really wanting her out that time. Aaron finally conceded, but for that round he tried to go for John. All 4 of us were okay with either John or Alison but we needed to select as a group. We chose Alison, and then we went to tell people like Lauren that it's just Alison.
Yeah I couldn't remember the exact details because I just remember I was just like "I'm going to tell Angelina who ever they say so it doesn't matter"
Lmao. God I wish you waited just at least one more fucking round before you decided to turn on us you porcelain bowl shitstain.
Well this porcelain bowl shitstain got 5th so :inlove:
 

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Nick wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:22:46 pm
Dean wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:21:24 pm
Lauren wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:17:49 pm

You guys had a group chat? I was never included in any group chats or anything. I said I didn’t regret anything in this game but I kinda do now. :thumbsdown:
Yup, the "1011" chat. It was me, Aaron, Carl, and Nick. It was called Win or Booze. Nick forgot the name of our alliance like a week into the game :crine:

Nick wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:18:16 pm
Yeah I couldn't remember the exact details because I just remember I was just like "I'm going to tell Angelina who ever they say so it doesn't matter"
Lmao. God I wish you waited just at least one more fucking round before you decided to turn on us you porcelain bowl shitstain.
Well this porcelain bowl shitstain got 5th so :inlove:
And someone like Jack the best goat waifu is getting at least 4th so :inlove:
 

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John wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:16:20 pm
Lauren wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:03:35 pm
Dean wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:54:16 pm Yeah after the Carl vote you slowly rose in the ranks Nick and you were definitely someone I could have seen myself voting for. You 100% were above Kara in my own rankings. I don't like emotional players at all, so that's going to be a tough battle for Kara for my vote personally if she makes F3.

I'll wait until we get our last juror before I spill my rankings for F3 on who I think should win or not.
I’m not going to spill my rankings either so no comment on Kara for now. Tommy has outmaneuvered most of us here with some flashy blindsides and backstabbing but it’s all been logical now that I think about it. This season you had to have been flexible with your allegiances (I thought I was but ppl didn’t see it that way), and the four who are left did that better than the rest of us. Nyiri 2.0 did a good job of making me the shield and former Poroto fell for it hook, line and sinker ( which I knew they would), so good on you for that too Nick.
:rofl:

Please stop saying we fell for anything. I already told you I couldn’t trust you after you had spread my name around. We wanted Dan to stay because we thought he’d be an easier vote than you would have been since you had people fighting for you, and we also were worried Carl might have the idol and knew he wouldn’t play it on you.

You didn’t deserve to leave as early as you did. You were a fantastic character, and it sucks. That said, you also didn’t have to all vote for Alison when you had 8 votes.
You did fall for it though, no?! Many people brought up your name but you chose to stay fixated on me and I’m okay with that. And you thought he’d be an easier vote for you? Well, you thought wrong. And, before I said anything to Missy or whatever I allegedly said to a Jack, you told me Nick, Carl, Aaron and Dean wanted me out next on Nyiri 2.0, whether it was true or not, I knew your intentions in telling me that. I could’ve easily used that info to sink you but I didn’t - I just don’t think you were adaptable enough.

I still would’ve worked with you after you dropped that bomb on me. I think you just got outplayed in the end (as we all did). You did better than me and got me out so just be happy with gather.
 

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Nick wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:13:18 pm
John wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:09:16 pm
John wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:07:55 pm

:rofl: That’s hilarious and sad.

Why did you think you could trust him to keep you safe after you got bigger targets out?
Meant to add “if you never talked to each other” to the end of that question.

Also, why did you want to make the alliance with me and Tommy if you had no intentions of keeping it?
I wanted to make one last big move which involved Aaron leaving to cement myself in the final 3, and so Kara/myself/Aaron talked about doing Jack tonight (which I'm not sure if that was still the plan or not) but I felt like I needed Jack in the end with me so I decided to risk it and tell Jack that they're voting him so the only way for him to remain safe in the game was to vote out Aaron. But I think either he told Aaron this or Tommy/Aaron/Jack were a final 3 at that point so I just ended up sealing my fate pretty much.

And also John I felt like you were the most powerful person in this game and so I wanted you on my good side, I actually didn't want you out that tribal council I wanted Aaron out but as soon as Tommy/Kara/Aaron all told me that you were making a plan to get me out, I wanted you out immediately.
That’s fair, and it would’ve been smarter for us to all get rid of Aaron then.

I told Alison all this would happen the moment Angelina left. I wasn’t happy she had included Aaron in the plan to go for you (told her that he would sell us out too), but if Tommy and Kara weren’t on our side, it didn’t matter at all and my goose was cooked.

FYI though after you whispered to me during Dean’s vote out, Angelina was the one who actually targeted you hard, and you had done a lot of sketchy stuff throughout the game that made everybody distrust you. My plan would’ve been to get Angelina to idol you out had she not left which changed a ton in this game sadly. That said, everyone could have targeted me anyways so it may not have made a difference. Not exactly sure what would have ended up happening, I think it depends on what Kara would’ve done. I am extremely curious to find out what she was thinking over the past weekend.
 

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Lauren wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:25:07 pm
John wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:16:20 pm
Lauren wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:03:35 pm

I’m not going to spill my rankings either so no comment on Kara for now. Tommy has outmaneuvered most of us here with some flashy blindsides and backstabbing but it’s all been logical now that I think about it. This season you had to have been flexible with your allegiances (I thought I was but ppl didn’t see it that way), and the four who are left did that better than the rest of us. Nyiri 2.0 did a good job of making me the shield and former Poroto fell for it hook, line and sinker ( which I knew they would), so good on you for that too Nick.
:rofl:

Please stop saying we fell for anything. I already told you I couldn’t trust you after you had spread my name around. We wanted Dan to stay because we thought he’d be an easier vote than you would have been since you had people fighting for you, and we also were worried Carl might have the idol and knew he wouldn’t play it on you.

You didn’t deserve to leave as early as you did. You were a fantastic character, and it sucks. That said, you also didn’t have to all vote for Alison when you had 8 votes.
You did fall for it though, no?! Many people brought up your name but you chose to stay fixated on me and I’m okay with that. And you thought he’d be an easier vote for you? Well, you thought wrong. And, before I said anything to Missy or whatever I allegedly said to a Jack, you told me Nick, Carl, Aaron and Dean wanted me out next on Nyiri 2.0, whether it was true or not, I knew your intentions in telling me that. I could’ve easily used that info to sink you but I didn’t - I just don’t think you were adaptable enough.

I still would’ve worked with you after you dropped that bomb on me. I think you just got outplayed in the end (as we all did). You did better than me and got me out so just be happy with gather.
To confirm, you think I am wrong that Dan turned out to be an easy vote later in the game? He was voted out 9-1 with no drama whatsoever.
 

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John wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:25:54 pm
Nick wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:13:18 pm
John wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:09:16 pm

Meant to add “if you never talked to each other” to the end of that question.

Also, why did you want to make the alliance with me and Tommy if you had no intentions of keeping it?
I wanted to make one last big move which involved Aaron leaving to cement myself in the final 3, and so Kara/myself/Aaron talked about doing Jack tonight (which I'm not sure if that was still the plan or not) but I felt like I needed Jack in the end with me so I decided to risk it and tell Jack that they're voting him so the only way for him to remain safe in the game was to vote out Aaron. But I think either he told Aaron this or Tommy/Aaron/Jack were a final 3 at that point so I just ended up sealing my fate pretty much.

And also John I felt like you were the most powerful person in this game and so I wanted you on my good side, I actually didn't want you out that tribal council I wanted Aaron out but as soon as Tommy/Kara/Aaron all told me that you were making a plan to get me out, I wanted you out immediately.
That’s fair, and it would’ve been smarter for us to all get rid of Aaron then.

I told Alison all this would happen the moment Angelina left. I wasn’t happy she had included Aaron in the plan to go for you (told her that he would sell us out too), but if Tommy and Kara weren’t on our side, it didn’t matter at all and my goose was cooked.

FYI though after you whispered to me during Dean’s vote out, Angelina was the one who actually targeted you hard, and you had done a lot of sketchy stuff throughout the game that made everybody distrust you. My plan would’ve been to get Angelina to idol you out had she not left which changed a ton in this game sadly. That said, everyone could have targeted me anyways so it may not have made a difference. Not exactly sure what would have ended up happening, I think it depends on what Kara would’ve done. I am extremely curious to find out what she was thinking over the past weekend.
I’m so sorry for that I really thought he was being honest with me, and that’s on me. If I knew what was brewing I would have done things so differently.
 

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Also fuck you @Dean for making a fake idol.

My dumbass legit thought it was fake which is why I whispered John because I thought it didn't matter and I thought my or his ass were going and so I totally fucked myself over because of it.
 

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Dean wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:14:57 pm
John wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:11:08 pm Nah, Aaron is a hero. Villains were definitely you, Christian, and Dangelina.
Thank you for recognizing my villainness, but I'm not sure how you think Aaron would be a hero otherwise since we've been together for a while and share very similar thoughts.

I need the tea on Christian though, I forget what you told me in your IMs but I don't think he did much wrong? Alison told me she really liked him
Never heard of the old good cop, bad cop routine?

Christian had some hysterical moments and was a good dude. Was kidding about the villain stuff, but Davie should’ve stayed over him.
 

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John wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:27:12 pm
Lauren wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:25:07 pm
John wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:16:20 pm

:rofl:

Please stop saying we fell for anything. I already told you I couldn’t trust you after you had spread my name around. We wanted Dan to stay because we thought he’d be an easier vote than you would have been since you had people fighting for you, and we also were worried Carl might have the idol and knew he wouldn’t play it on you.

You didn’t deserve to leave as early as you did. You were a fantastic character, and it sucks. That said, you also didn’t have to all vote for Alison when you had 8 votes.
You did fall for it though, no?! Many people brought up your name but you chose to stay fixated on me and I’m okay with that. And you thought he’d be an easier vote for you? Well, you thought wrong. And, before I said anything to Missy or whatever I allegedly said to a Jack, you told me Nick, Carl, Aaron and Dean wanted me out next on Nyiri 2.0, whether it was true or not, I knew your intentions in telling me that. I could’ve easily used that info to sink you but I didn’t - I just don’t think you were adaptable enough.

I still would’ve worked with you after you dropped that bomb on me. I think you just got outplayed in the end (as we all did). You did better than me and got me out so just be happy with gather.
To confirm, you think I am wrong that Dan turned out to be an easy vote later in the game? He was voted out 9-1 with no drama whatsoever.
I thought you meant easy vote as in someone you could flipping over to your side. Anyway - this is all academic. I’m not bitter at all that you voted me out. Just explaining that I was pretty much a free agent. Also, if everyone in the game said you wanted me out it wouldn’t have phased me in still wanting to go after Dan and Nyiri 2.0.
 

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Nick wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:29:31 pm Also fuck you @Dean for making a fake idol.

My dumbass legit thought it was fake which is why I whispered John because I thought it didn't matter and I thought my or his ass were going and so I totally fucked myself over because of it.
:crine: :crine: :crine:

I can't express my happiness when I saw that you were whispering to John, then seeing John call out Angelina, without anyone suspecting that my idol was fake. I wanted to cause some last minute disruption to at least someone's game, and I suppose I won in that aspect.

How did it ruin things though? Were the whispers just telling John that one of you were fucked?
 

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Alison wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:28:31 pm
John wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:25:54 pm
Nick wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:13:18 pm

I wanted to make one last big move which involved Aaron leaving to cement myself in the final 3, and so Kara/myself/Aaron talked about doing Jack tonight (which I'm not sure if that was still the plan or not) but I felt like I needed Jack in the end with me so I decided to risk it and tell Jack that they're voting him so the only way for him to remain safe in the game was to vote out Aaron. But I think either he told Aaron this or Tommy/Aaron/Jack were a final 3 at that point so I just ended up sealing my fate pretty much.

And also John I felt like you were the most powerful person in this game and so I wanted you on my good side, I actually didn't want you out that tribal council I wanted Aaron out but as soon as Tommy/Kara/Aaron all told me that you were making a plan to get me out, I wanted you out immediately.
That’s fair, and it would’ve been smarter for us to all get rid of Aaron then.

I told Alison all this would happen the moment Angelina left. I wasn’t happy she had included Aaron in the plan to go for you (told her that he would sell us out too), but if Tommy and Kara weren’t on our side, it didn’t matter at all and my goose was cooked.

FYI though after you whispered to me during Dean’s vote out, Angelina was the one who actually targeted you hard, and you had done a lot of sketchy stuff throughout the game that made everybody distrust you. My plan would’ve been to get Angelina to idol you out had she not left which changed a ton in this game sadly. That said, everyone could have targeted me anyways so it may not have made a difference. Not exactly sure what would have ended up happening, I think it depends on what Kara would’ve done. I am extremely curious to find out what she was thinking over the past weekend.
I’m so sorry for that I really thought he was being honest with me, and that’s on me. If I knew what was brewing I would have done things so differently.
I think it made things easier for them, but the writing was already on the wall. Don’t blame you whatsoever for trying to save us.
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John wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:30:22 pm
Dean wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:14:57 pm
John wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:11:08 pm Nah, Aaron is a hero. Villains were definitely you, Christian, and Dangelina.
Thank you for recognizing my villainness, but I'm not sure how you think Aaron would be a hero otherwise since we've been together for a while and share very similar thoughts.

I need the tea on Christian though, I forget what you told me in your IMs but I don't think he did much wrong? Alison told me she really liked him
Never heard of the old good cop, bad cop routine?
But it's weird to me, because I always was diplomatic with people in IMs, whereas Aaron seemed like the one to lose his temper more easily. I think he treated you more differently, however.
 

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Dean wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:33:48 pm
Nick wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:29:31 pm Also fuck you @Dean for making a fake idol.

My dumbass legit thought it was fake which is why I whispered John because I thought it didn't matter and I thought my or his ass were going and so I totally fucked myself over because of it.
:crine: :crine: :crine:

I can't express my happiness when I saw that you were whispering to John, then seeing John call out Angelina, without anyone suspecting that my idol was fake. I wanted to cause some last minute disruption to at least someone's game, and I suppose I won in that aspect.

How did it ruin things though? Were the whispers just telling John that one of you were fucked?
I swore to keep Angelina's idol a secret and I planned on working very close to Angelina for a long time but I whispered John because I thought one of us was fucked so I wanted to let him know what happened before one of us were doomed because the only logical explanation was that Angelina gave you the idol and turned on one of us. Obviously I knew 5 seconds later I was wrong.

So I legit went to bed and woke up in the morning and Angelina was asking me about it and I first lied and said I had no idea what she was talking about and that I didn't say anything about the idol and then we fought because John had apparently told her like that night after tribal and so I was pissed at both John and Angelina and pretty much any chance of me infiltrating the alliance seemed over.

Also I've been reading and I actually didn't start the final 3 alliance with myself/Kara/Tommy, that was Kara and so Kara really wanted to work with me which is why I felt still alright afterwards. But it was a really good thing for me that Angelina was ejected because I ended up having enough power to take out John/Alison afterwards but I definitely fucked up because I do think I could've gotten Jack out of here if I had just stuck with it.

But yeah, the night after your tribal Dean was NOT fun.
 

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Nick wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:38:17 pm
Dean wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:33:48 pm
Nick wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:29:31 pm Also fuck you @Dean for making a fake idol.

My dumbass legit thought it was fake which is why I whispered John because I thought it didn't matter and I thought my or his ass were going and so I totally fucked myself over because of it.
:crine: :crine: :crine:

I can't express my happiness when I saw that you were whispering to John, then seeing John call out Angelina, without anyone suspecting that my idol was fake. I wanted to cause some last minute disruption to at least someone's game, and I suppose I won in that aspect.

How did it ruin things though? Were the whispers just telling John that one of you were fucked?
I swore to keep Angelina's idol a secret and I planned on working very close to Angelina for a long time but I whispered John because I thought one of us was fucked so I wanted to let him know what happened before one of us were doomed because the only logical explanation was that Angelina gave you the idol and turned on one of us. Obviously I knew 5 seconds later I was wrong.

So I legit went to bed and woke up in the morning and Angelina was asking me about it and I first lied and said I had no idea what she was talking about and that I didn't say anything about the idol and then we fought because John had apparently told her like that night after tribal and so I was pissed at both John and Angelina and pretty much any chance of me infiltrating the alliance seemed over.

Also I've been reading and I actually didn't start the final 3 alliance with myself/Kara/Tommy, that was Kara and so Kara really wanted to work with me which is why I felt still alright afterwards. But it was a really good thing for me that Angelina was ejected because I ended up having enough power to take out John/Alison afterwards but I definitely fucked up because I do think I could've gotten Jack out of here if I had just stuck with it.

But yeah, the night after your tribal Dean was NOT fun.
Good to know that Kara had an alternative F3.
 

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Dean wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:33:48 pm
Nick wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:29:31 pm Also fuck you @Dean for making a fake idol.

My dumbass legit thought it was fake which is why I whispered John because I thought it didn't matter and I thought my or his ass were going and so I totally fucked myself over because of it.
:crine: :crine: :crine:

I can't express my happiness when I saw that you were whispering to John, then seeing John call out Angelina, without anyone suspecting that my idol was fake. I wanted to cause some last minute disruption to at least someone's game, and I suppose I won in that aspect.

How did it ruin things though? Were the whispers just telling John that one of you were fucked?
He whispered to me that he knew about Angelina’s idol (which I didn’t know about) and found it with her a few days before. That whisper was one the worst of the game (up there with Jessica’s to me at the swap auction :sob: and Tommy’s to us that Alison was a target at the final 12).

I also have no idea why you whispered it only to me since others were there, but I definitely didn’t appreciate it at the time or after because it ended up being pointless and made me look worse. But yeah, I thought for sure I was gone that night after Dean’s post.

I had already called out Angelina earlier about telling you and Aaron too much about our plans, but the argument Angelina and I had the next day was entirely due to Nick’s paranoia until we reconciled and agreed that Nick was the next target.
 

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Dean wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:35:25 pm
John wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:30:22 pm
Dean wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:14:57 pm

Thank you for recognizing my villainness, but I'm not sure how you think Aaron would be a hero otherwise since we've been together for a while and share very similar thoughts.

I need the tea on Christian though, I forget what you told me in your IMs but I don't think he did much wrong? Alison told me she really liked him
Never heard of the old good cop, bad cop routine?
But it's weird to me, because I always was diplomatic with people in IMs, whereas Aaron seemed like the one to lose his temper more easily. I think he treated you more differently, however.
I would ask Aaron a question, and he would respond with an answer which allowed me to respond with substance. You responded to my game questions with vagueness which is why I responded with vagueness. I enjoyed our non-game talks but I spoke to Aaron more about strategy, even if it amounted to nothing.
 

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Ahhh :seeno: Just don't keep reminding me about the fake idol, it was definitely one of my lowest points and I remember thinking that morning that the whisper I sent you might've been the thing to take me out of this game.
 

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Nick wrote: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:43:23 pm Ahhh :seeno: Just don't keep reminding me about the fake idol, it was definitely one of my lowest points and I remember thinking that morning that the whisper I sent you might've been the thing to take me out of this game.
Nothing against you personally, but this is exactly why I was probably voting for Jack or anyone else over you if you made the end after a blunder like that.

Still think you could’ve won, and you had plenty of supporters here.
 

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